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Posted 09 March 2015 - 12:34 PM

Have we forgotten about Nas killing him on the Ether track, He was straight up gunned in the mouth ? then he sign's Nas to his label (please don't muder and highlight my wackness in public again, here's a contract). Or was it a promo like wrestlers do ?. All bullshit and we hoover it all up.

 

He is overated for HIPHOP heads, and the underground.

 

He is in the right catergory for the mainstream Hip-pop.



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 01:15 PM

Age of rappers ain't shit now. Nobody really gives a fuck. A lot of people came up with this hip hop shit and it's fitting that there are artists out there that still represent them.

 

I was talking specifically about Jay-Z. I'm 36 and I don't need a wealthy businessman approaching middle age representing me in hip hop. Thanks.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:31 PM

Jay Z doesn't "sample", he capitalizes.

 

Jay-Z, Biggie, and Busta all went to the same highschool. Biggie was rapping like that in 92-94, at least. Busta dropped Scenario in 91. Meanwhile Jay-Z was rapping like Jaz. Jay-Z has nothing. At that time, MF DOOM had already written 2 classic albums before he was 22

AND DOOM'S TWO YEARS YOUNGER THAN JAY-Z

 

I see honestly no argument for Jay-Z having any artistic merit, whatsoever. JF, you have the floor.



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 08:30 PM

well the outcome of this thread was already pre-determined by the title, but i think it's very obnoxious for people like GP to assume that their opinion is the only viable one that could exist in the world.

 

i mean, whatever...i listen to Jay-Z and enjoy some of his songs still, most of you don't.

i made all my points, and i feel as though they speak for themselves; if you reject them, then i guess that's that.

but it's really not too shocking for me to realize i have a differing opinion than you guys in something as broad as music -- i'm pretty sure i've held unpopular viewpoints in like half the threads on this message board haha.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 09:36 PM

Haha, all in good fun mang. Jay-Z's Shakespeare. Hamlet was some old play that got flipped. I know how it goes.

 

 

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 09:37 PM

what rapper over 40 hasn't fallen off?

el-p is 40, killer mike 39. I think they're both doing the best work of their careers right now (if not on par with fantastic damage, i love that album to much...) 

this is a redundant statement. Please continue.

 

edit: KA is also 41 and still spitting fire



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 09:53 PM

I'll lay it out real simple for you. Jay Z used to be aight. Then he realised at one point or another that the songs he put the least effort in to lyrically got the best response publicly so he kept talking about he's bank roll and people kept buying in to it. People seem to like really wealthy people talking about how much money they have (i know... I don't get it either), what people don't seem to like so much are the ones who talk about how much paper they have when they ain't have any (that one i get), we call them types of people: Pete Marriott.

 

So Jay Z just did the easy thing. He took the money. It's quiteeeee common in music. But yeah, some of his earlier shit was alright at one point or another. Nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, just the right place and the right time. Discussing how certain people got extremely wealthy or successful when you think they didn't deserve it will keep you broke (and make you go mentally insane) 


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 10:24 PM

oh well, it's a hard knock life.


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 12:49 AM

Why you gotta go and set off Pete's google alerts like that Ed


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 04:18 AM

Be funny if Jay Z came onto the forum talking shit about how good he is


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 03:25 PM

I'd love to see Jay Z 'Lyrically Murder' someone 


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 04:02 PM

I'd love to see Jay Z 'Lyrically Murder' someone

or hold the forum ransom for a few album sales...
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Posted 10 March 2015 - 08:19 PM

i could see Kanye doing that...i find stories about him all the time now from people who met him before he was famous.  he would literally just like drop verses to people in elevators and shit haha.


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 08:35 PM

Kanye West is a modern day Johnny Appleseed

 

ambushing motherfuckers in bushes with bars

"C'MERE AND LISTEN TO ME RAP"

 

 

 

plot twist, Jay-Z is Pete Marriott



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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:06 AM

well...lone ninja posted a quote on his Facebook the other day saying basically "20% of fans really admire the music and skill behind it while 80% admire the lifestyle/envious of the persona". I think that can about sum up the Jay-Z ethos post-Bueprint(which I really liked for the most part but after that its rubbish)....


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:45 AM

Johnny Appleseed hahaha



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Posted 13 March 2015 - 10:31 AM

jay z can rap hes just played out



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Posted 01 April 2015 - 06:38 PM

"YEAH KEEP THOSE ROCS IN THE AIR
I DO IT FOR YOU" fucks model in private jet while laughing maniacally

 

He's saying this to the very people he would try to sell crack to in '88. He's a hypocrite. A liar. A thief. All of these things are what America stands for.

 

"Peacoat revolutionary lane"

Glad I said this, because with the release of Tidal,

 

Hurrdurr, We're artists, we own the company.

 

Socialism by the elites. Called that shit

 

edit: #TidalForALL <_<


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:37 PM

as if the big-wigs up top are somehow keeping us lackeys in the dark with their elitist music apps...

 

#TidalFORALL the idiots willing to pay premium prices for content they can literally just steal from the internet with very few (if any) repercussions.  i tell ya, i should have fucking bootlegged Yeezus -- that's what being a little good-boy consumer got me, a pile of actual dog shit that just sits on my CD shelf eating away space that could be filled by...an Amiibo or...a Pocket Pussy...literally anything else would be better besides a slightly dustier copy of Yeezus.



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 12:18 PM

 

shit don't always need to be clever.

 

And sometimes jay can be clever. 

 

Arm, leg, leg, arm, head - this is God body
Knowledge, wisdom, freedom, understanding - we just want our equality
Food, clothing, shelter - help a nigga find some peace
Happiness for a gangsta, ain't no love in the streets

This guy not even spitting the shit right... that's straight 5 percenter facts right there.... nothing he came up with himself... and how you get freedom before understanding?

 

knowledge before your wisdom or understanding is fucked - AZ

 

JUST GOOGLE. supreme mathematics and supreme alphabet and you'll see why his shit is wrong.



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 12:20 PM

ok, maybe i went a little too hard, but the point is he put them words in the wrong order...you'd be in trouble for that at any parliament out in Harlem or at The School in Mecca or Medina or any of the 5 percenter schools.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:01 PM

as if the big-wigs up top are somehow keeping us lackeys in the dark with their elitist music apps...

 

I'm saying, he just did the theme song for the Great Gatsby. The most America, Capitalist, One guy rules them all sell out event ever.

 

A year later, he switches to this socialist, "All for one, Artists first" bullshit. Get outta here, I don't fuck with that. That's disrespectful to a lot of people, myself included. Why would I respect a guy who shits in my bed? Music to him is just a billboard for his business ventures.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:52 PM

Well Tidal has epically failed, so don't worry about it. Even with a rumoured Jay + Beyonce project, it actually improved sales of Pandora and Spotify, which just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside  :P



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Posted Yesterday, 07:32 PM

What is tidal

Never even heard of it

Actually don't tell me I don't care

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Posted Yesterday, 07:34 PM

I heard that they're giving 75% royalties to the artists. He made a good point on Twitter today, you think HE'S the big wig? Tidal is worth 60 mil Spotify like 8 BIL.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:52 PM

I heard that they're giving 75% royalties to the artists. He made a good point on Twitter today, you think HE'S the big wig? Tidal is worth 60 mil Spotify like 8 BIL.

 

That's just guerrilla advertising, I wouldn't trust a word from his mouth



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Posted Yesterday, 08:48 PM

 

Why would I respect a guy who shits in my bed?

 

that's what i tell myself every Sunday morning.


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Posted Today, 02:43 PM

Jay has the right idea but it's been executed so poorly.



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Posted Today, 02:45 PM

I think we need to give Tidal more than four weeks. It seems a good business model. I think it's just needs to get customers. If every big name artist only releases via tidal, why wouldn't it succeed?
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Posted Today, 07:24 PM

 

that's what i tell myself every Sunday morning.

JAMES FRANK YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC!


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