this album is basically the first true synthesis of hip-hop and jazz since the birth of hip-hop from jazz 40+ years ago
Saying that hip-hop was birthed from jazz is a bit revisionary. If anything, hip-hop came from funk and disco, jazz tracks weren't getting sampled until the 90s came along. This is actually a pretty important point. A lot of people seem to assume that jazz and hip-hop are, like, necessarily intertwined. They aren't. And, as far as this being "the first true synthesis of jazz and hip-hop," I would say Madlib's work on albums like Shades of Blue, Angles Without Edges, and even some of his more hip-hop stuff does that more credibly. And we can go back even further, into the 90s with 4hero and a thousand other cats whose names I can't remember. The jazz/hip-hop thing aint nothing new. Like that other guy said, it's all been done before.
As per this entire discussion, I would like to point people's attention to a quote from Herbie Hancock that I think sums up the discussion. This is from the Fader article:
Looking back on their experiences in the studio together, [Hancock] stresses the questing soul in Ellison: “Jazz is something he’s interested in, and he feels, [but] his music is uniquely his own. It didn’t sound like anything I knew. He hears and feels a complete gamut of sounds."
I mean, it's a really interesting debate. There are some really cool sounds on this album. But why call it jazz? Unless, of course, your goal is to appear highbrow in the eyes of an uninformed public....The other thing is, we're treating jazz like this sacred cow, when in fact many of the actual luminaries of the genre eventually rejected the term, as a sort of invention of the critics. Hell, you can go back to the 50s when cool jazz segued into Bebop and many of the cool jazz guys were saying Bebop wasn't jazz. So, this debate itself is as old as dirt.
get real, major-level recognition from audiences around the world. that means good things for us, if anything...it means that we were successful, we actually have gotten the ball rolling in a new direction that has yet to be explored. i think the short tracks here are just as justified as the short tracks on any punk release, or the short tracks on MV for that matter. that was jazz then; this is what jazz has become now,
I mean, I don't really see this getting popular enough to make any serious mainstream headway or shake up the music industry or anything like that. If anything, it's the highwater mark for FlyLo's own career. And he should be proud. And it is a good album. Like you said, how can he top this? But, your statement about Tribute To Jack Johnson being "jazz then, and this is what jazz has become now," that's just a gross oversimplification. There are hundreds of thousands of players who are out there grinding, practicing for upwards of ten hours a day, studying recordings, gigging, and writing incredible music. They just don't get written up on all the wannabe tastemaker blogs. I think this is a good album, and I wouldn't want to get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of it. But, at the same time, "don't believe the hype."