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#1 Dirty Cyclist

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

Is buying off the internet cheating? If you find a deal on eBay (or any other site) on a really rare record, would you buy it? I'd like to travel the world and collect some more vinyl (as well as hit up the mtn bike trails), but I don't have the money or time right now. I've seen the decent deals on rare imports that are cheaper than my local record store. Just curious what y'all think...

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:42 AM

I dig all over, I hunt for record stores and I'll cop a record off ebay too. Sometimes, ebay has the joints you most likely wont find out diggin. Like yesterday I got a sealed copy of Ice-T's "Power" CD still sealed in the original CD longbox. THAT SHIT IS FRESH!!!
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:14 PM

of course it's not cheating. there is a risk of being cheated by shady sellers though.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:52 PM

It's not cheating for the new generation, many OG cats think it is. By the time I started buying records ebay and discogs were already around so it's what I know how to do. In fact, I don't remember a time where my home didn't have a computer in it and I remember when my school got the internet. I was like "wtf is this shit, I don't get", and now look what it's become. The internet is bigger than the real world. I dig in stores way more than online because finding that rare record you thought you'd never see is great. The only issue, is that the record store wants 90 bucks and sometimes you can get it for 10 bucks online. It'd be awesome to get every dope record you want in your town but that's not happening. I say times have changed and diggers should adapt or their collections could be left in the dust.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:32 PM

^ orchid summed it up perfectly.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 08:56 PM

I wouldn't call it cheating, but I will admit that I feel more comfortable digging in random spots and finding stuff I never seen or heard before.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:07 AM

yes it is !!! you dirty cheater you
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:21 AM

I might be biased, but I definitely agree with orchid.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:13 AM

As Orchid said, times have changed diggers gotta adapt. Also local record spots are dropping like flies, I can remember so many different spots from back in the day that no longer exist its crazy.

It would be cool if they had this interactive website that simulated digging in the real world, actually flipping through crates and pulling stuff out. Someday maybe.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:14 AM

Most of the records I buy online are for listening, but I did get the Skull Snaps Lp off of ebay when I first started making beats.

But like Projexion said, digging spots are disappearing even the Madlib is e-digging.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:07 AM

It would be cool if they had this interactive website that simulated digging in the real world, actually flipping through crates and pulling stuff out. Someday maybe.


If they make an online store like that then all remaining physical stores will be eliminated. If it wasn't for the Internet I wouldn't even know about a ton of the music I listen to, so how can it be cheating to also buy on the Internet? I can buy literally anything online: my groceries, clothes, music equipment, porn (never pay for porn), pets, I could order a foreign bride or prostitute online if I so pleased, but buying records online is a nono? Brotha please.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:29 AM

I don't do it personally just, but I see the value of it. If you know a specific record you want then it makes more since to spend 5 seconds on google to find it then hours going to record stores and possibly never finding a copy.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

I'm finding out that Japan has some sick vinyl and if I was to generalize, the Japanese seem to take care of their vinyl very well.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:19 PM

I'm finding out that Japan has some sick vinyl and if I was to generalize, the Japanese seem to take care of their vinyl very well.


Just bought my first record from Japan on ebay the other day, good stuff. Another thing that's easy about buying online is that you usually know what you're getting because there are usually item descriptions. Some stores I go to have sections seperated by country but not by country then genre, and if I were to look at Japanese records with no English print I have no idea what I'm buying or even a general idea unless there are pictures of the artists with their instruments. I can't even google it because I don't read Japanese. Then I have to figure it's not a rare/quality or sought after Japanese record if it's only a couple bucks in America. I usually don'y buy online but when I do, it's usually great. I know that within a week or two, I'm gonna have a record that I know is good or looks interesting, I wouldn't find it in person normally, I payed less than I would be forced to pay in person, and that's delivered to within 50 yards of my turntable and mpc. Sold. I understand how it's not as cool as finding rare/good stuff in person, especially shit that you've never heard off, but people that say the internet is cheating are jealous of how easy us youngsters have it when it's not our fault. All the internet purchases also leave more in physical stores for us diggers that like going in person.
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Posted 12 January 2014 - 09:02 PM

I dig all over, I hunt for record stores and I'll cop a record off ebay too. Sometimes, ebay has the joints you most likely wont find out diggin. Like yesterday I got a sealed copy of Ice-T's "Power" CD still sealed in the original CD longbox. THAT SHIT IS FRESH!!!


Long box raer :) miss those days

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 05:08 AM

but people that say the internet is cheating are jealous of how easy us youngsters have it when it's not our fault. All the internet purchases also leave more in physical stores for us diggers that like going in person.


definitely not cheating in any sense, i think you sum it up here orchid. i can't be sorry that i grew up in a generation where literally any product is available at the click of a button lol. with that being said though, nothing beats the feeling of being in a record store and flipping through used vinyl. actually getting to look at the record itself too is a plus.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:06 PM

I bought a few records online a looooong time ago. Overpaid for some records that were in hoooooorible condition. That soured me forever. I can understand it, I just don't partake. I love to dig. I love finding/holding something you just discovered for the first time or that you never thought you'd see. Yes, most stores are extinct. I'm lucky enough to live in a city where there are multiple stores and a culture that's big enough to keep these places in business. Yeah, that one shop will overcharge you ever goddamn time but just like eBay, I just avoid digging in certain sections when I'm there. The other place is a fucking Mecca of wax and will undersell any online retailer seven days a week. I know most people aren't lucky enough to have those options but because I do I make a point of only shopping at the brick and mortars. Then again, I'm a pretty analog cat so its not surprising that I don't e-dig whatsoever.
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Posted 09 February 2014 - 02:46 PM

I bought a few records online a looooong time ago. Overpaid for some records that were in hoooooorible condition. That soured me forever. I can understand it, I just don't partake. I love to dig. I love finding/holding something you just discovered for the first time or that you never thought you'd see. Yes, most stores are extinct. I'm lucky enough to live in a city where there are multiple stores and a culture that's big enough to keep these places in business. Yeah, that one shop will overcharge you ever goddamn time but just like eBay, I just avoid digging in certain sections when I'm there. The other place is a fucking Mecca of wax and will undersell any online retailer seven days a week. I know most people aren't lucky enough to have those options but because I do I make a point of only shopping at the brick and mortars. Then again, I'm a pretty analog cat so its not surprising that I don't e-dig whatsoever.


Dude we featured in a video kinda sums it up well: http://www.youtube.c...lC-cviE#t=0m58s . He's talking about Discogs specifically there, but I feel like it's true of buying records anywhere online. Some people just aren't fortunate enough to live somewhere where there's a million awesome record shops, kind of hard to get into collecting vinyl if this type of e-digging didn't exist.

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 06:29 AM

I'm finding out that Japan has some sick vinyl and if I was to generalize, the Japanese seem to take care of their vinyl very well.


I've ordered a few things from japan... The vinyls were in immaculate condition and he only graded them as good lol.
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:58 PM

Totally cheating. And boring.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:48 AM

Totally cheating. And boring.

yeah, but add wife and kids to the mix and see how much record store crate digging you can get in if you are not doing it for a living.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:52 PM

fuck no
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

I was at a shop the other day... and I was so frantic (wanting to buy the whole place up) that I asked some super fine woman holding a stack of soul/rnb records (Gap Band was the record that was showing)
Me: "where the fluck is the soul section!!?//!!!??"
She pointed .... "over there"
I beamed over there with that "record shop-rabies-froth-around-your-mouth-shit-tunnel-vision"... buried my head and started digging.
Earlier today I heard this song:



It clicked...C.Wilson...Gap Band...
It took me numerous days to reflect...
I didn't even say "hi" to ma with that fat stack... I was blinded by digging!
Fine looking lady at a record shop...buying mad soul records?!?!?! Maybe More illusive then a yeti.
SMH

So internet or brick and mortar? Cheating if you buy off the net?
I'll just say that I am a feen... wherever I can get it, it will be got.
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 11:01 AM

So internet or brick and mortar? Cheating if you buy off the net?
I'll just say that I am a feen... wherever I can get it, it will be got.

word ~ I get a real high by getting $1 records. Sometimes international sellers will make spelling mistakes and I can get a NM, rare record for around a buck + the airline ticket price. I do dig the brick and mortar shops. I like hearing record store employees talking, the smells, the crackly record playing in the background and pretty much the whole experience which I hope my son can experience when he is older…

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 11:22 AM

I bought a few records online a looooong time ago. Overpaid for some records that were in hoooooorible condition. That soured me forever. I can understand it, I just don't partake. I love to dig. I love finding/holding something you just discovered for the first time or that you never thought you'd see. Yes, most stores are extinct. I'm lucky enough to live in a city where there are multiple stores and a culture that's big enough to keep these places in business. Yeah, that one shop will overcharge you ever goddamn time but just like eBay, I just avoid digging in certain sections when I'm there. The other place is a fucking Mecca of wax and will undersell any online retailer seven days a week. I know most people aren't lucky enough to have those options but because I do I make a point of only shopping at the brick and mortars. Then again, I'm a pretty analog cat so its not surprising that I don't e-dig whatsoever.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:09 PM

The internet is basically a worldwide supermaket/theater/communicating device/library, pretty much everything you can do on earth is on the interenet, but you lose the enjoyment of like diggin' in the crates for some rare/unheard music, or going on a hike in the mountains enjoying nature, having sex instead of watching it. Basically what I'm sayin' is that its more enjoyable to go out and do shit instead of seeing it on the internet. But when the areas around you don't have what you need or want then the internet is the answer.

Example: I wanted to get "J Dilla Donuts" on vinyl for some time now, and this record store opened up in Longmont so I went to see if they carried it. I guess some locations carry the good shit than the others cuz it wasn't there or anywhere near me so I bought it online, although I did find the Mountain Live record, with Long Red sample for Stepson of the Clapper, there. Sometimes you get the best of both worlds.
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 04:17 PM

having sex instead of watching it


IDK bro... PR0N is pretty dope

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 07:00 PM

where do you live?


Denver.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 02:52 PM

Who cares? It's all up to you. If you don't enjoy digging...don't dig. The purpose is to make music that your peers/listeners or you enjoy. 







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