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#1 Tastik BEATS

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 01:36 AM

anyone got any tips for making some melodys from scratch no samples ?

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 01:53 AM

Step out first thing in the morning hold your phone out and hit record, later in the day listen back, find the birds chirping, and nick the melodies, a really simple harmony trick is count 4 keys up or down from the one your playing, other than that skin one up and spend the day on youtube learning, Intro's, verse, bridge, outro, what makes them work well, got to find your own formula man!!
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Posted 28 December 2013 - 02:32 AM

Well it often occurs to me (and probably to the rest of you) that I start creating melodies or drum breaks in my head, especially when I'm high. If I still happen to remember them when I'm producing I try to write them down. Not really much that I can help you with here. Play with chords, improvise, experiment, try different scales and add arpeggiators, this is the advice I can give to you. Maybe I should take this advice into consideration myself.
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Posted 28 December 2013 - 02:24 PM

Like Jubito said just improvise; lay down a nice drum track and just play around until you come up with something you like and don't be afraid of the black keys. You can also try learning some scales. Just do a bit of research to find out the common scales used in the type of music you wanna produce and go from there.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 12:30 AM

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If you take a chord and break it down into single notes and play them in any order (left-right, right-left, repeat this one, but not that one, skip this note, but not that one, jump up or down an octave, strike the whole chord then go back to single notes, etc) you can create melodies in harmony easily. Then add in other chords, use your ears, you'll know when it's not fitting together. Essentially, you will be playing parts of scales. Another approach is to look up the notation or even guitar tab for songs you like the progessions of, and break those chords down into notes, or just rearrange and play with the chords/notes in general. That's basically what we do when chop samples in slices, rearrange and transpose.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:50 PM

I do the music theory thing. Learning about the voice leading/harmony rules us filthy Westerners are used to helps me bang shit out. I also do algorithmic and stochastic (chance-based) composition things when I want to create interesting patterns, but not by hand or by thinking about it too hard (one of my Comp Sci professors once told me a lot of programming is finding hard ways to complete easy tasks).

Improvising with analog instruments helps, but this requires knowing how to play something. Playing around on a keyboard or guitar for a bit really unclogs the works for me. A lot of hip-hop is jazz, of course; one of the keyboardists I work with told me that his approach to improvising is to use whatever chord he can fit in his hands. Another focuses on finding a polyrhythm that grooves and is comfortable to play (though she maintains that those two qualities are mutually inclusive).

When all else fails, I go all-out atonal. Find whatever weird noisemakers I have and record them going nuts.

Sometimes, when I get high and listen to pieces that I believe are incomplete or missing something crucial, I can hear the "missing" content. Then, I record myself singing or humming or beatboxing or screeching it into my phone recorder.
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 07:09 AM

For me it's also important to incorporate other elements from scratch as well: edit chord progression and drums at the same time, side-chain while doing the chord progressions,... etc. I always seem to get stuck when I do melodies first and then I end up with some weird ambient stuff, unless I have something specific in my head in advance which only happens rarely. Melodies are just melodies, the vibe you want to create also depends on other things. For me it's easier to create things when they're framed by the vibe I want to create.

You could also redo the melodies/basslines or whatever from old records, I noticed Ta-Ku does that sometimes...

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Like Jubito said just improvise; lay down a nice drum track and just play around until you come up with something you like and don't be afraid of the black keys. You can also try learning some scales. Just do a bit of research to find out the common scales used in the type of music you wanna produce and go from there.

I just started actually trying to learn my scales and chords but when I used to just fuck around I loved the black keys. It just automatically made things Jazzy sounding. 



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:19 PM

http://www.pianoworl...iano_chords.htm

http://howmusicreall...FreeEdition.pdf (pg. 88 for chord progression chart)

 

Two great tools! I use that chart pretty much every time I make a beat. Read up on jazz voicings and inversions too.  


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:37 AM

http://www.freejazzlessons.com

 

I had to post this site. Been frequenting it for about a year on and off, but last few weeks heavily. I've learned so much good stuff, really considering paying for the premium stuff. You can probably find a lot of what he teaches on YT, but I have found him to be one of the more effective online instructors 

 

If you want a more jazzy sound this is gold.



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Posted 11 September 2014 - 01:43 PM

Definitely a combination of music theory and jamming (and practicing).

A simple starter method is playing pentatonic minor (you can absolutely do no wrong in pentatonic minor somehow, great fun) in A, then transpose up or down according to the key your song is in.

A pentatonic minor are these: A, C, D, E, G, A. Hit D# now and then for a blue note if I'm not mistaken, or try Bs and Fs to jam in 'regular' minor scale.

A great way to use this method is to jam along to your beat for 32+ bars, then make chops out of the result and use those as samples.






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