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#1 AzMatic

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:01 PM

How do you guys dig? Looking for specific songs, artists, or instruments? Do you go for compilations or regular albums? Or do you judge an album by its cover and leave it up to chance?

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:45 PM

I just look up who the best artists are from the genre i wanna sample. Then listen on youtube because then you don't have to buy any records and you have an unlimited resource. Also check out advertisements, tv show themes etc.

Ask your parents there favourite songs or if they know where to find a song that sounds similar to a sample you like.

Go on last.fm it will give you suggestions of artists wo have similar music to what you have sampled befor

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:59 PM

There's a reycling center near me and I go in with a tenner once a month and buy whatever takes me. If i have a spare quid one day I might go into an oxfam or something, the only records I buy knowing what they are is Ultimate Beats and Breaks for drums. Sampling from the random stuff you find won't get you the normal hip hop breaks but it does help you get your own sound and a sixth sense for digging
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Posted 13 December 2013 - 03:38 PM

1) i buy a giant stack of old records

2) i go home and masturbate on top of said records

3) whichever ones don't break or get stained i keep for sampling
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 09:35 AM

Watch RJD2's crate diggers, he hits the nail on the head in describing how I dig. I dig so frequently at so many spots, I know what records are common and that I'll be able to find. I only buy the ones that I have never seen or heard of that look good based off of my judgement, when you dig for records for a long enough time, you know when you've found something unique.

Another thing I check for are familiar artists, and not just the ones with their name on the front cover. There might be a drummer on a certain album that I like so I them up and see what else they've recorded for.

I'm a sucker for breaks compilations for some guaranteed drum solos, and anything that is a simple solo performance of an artist because it often contains samples uninterrupted by other sounds that may be tough to filter/edit out otherwise.

Also abstract spoken word records.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 03:37 PM

I just close my eyes and grab ...
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 04:50 PM

I use a shovel and make sure the ground is soft enough.
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Posted 18 December 2013 - 05:04 PM

i'm desperately trying to rid myself of the "over $5" stigma that i've always maintained since i started out digging. back when i had nothing and no experience or knowledge i just raided $1 bins for as much shit as i could get, usually ending up with really shitty, commonplace records that i thought were deep because i didn't realize how un-rare they really were.

i'm still in the weird transitional phase where i'm not an expert by any means, and i can't tell you what is and what isn't a deep cut that is worth a lot of $...but i've at least grown out of buying like Captain & Teneille records and Phil Collins joints because those were the only people i knew by name lol. i almost always go for shit i've never heard of before, i dig the element of surprise a lot...
but i still have a really hard time convincing myself to spend more than $6 on a record, even though i've come to realize all the really good shit's around the $5-25 range. now that i have an extensive collection of crates i'm starting to slow down on my habits of blasting through thrift store bins and instead take my time looking at joints and making sure they're fire the entire way through before i drop any amount of dough.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:19 PM

I don't have any specific methods. Usually one song/artist/album always leads me to another song/artist/album, and so forth.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:53 PM

I usually dig for stuff that I never heard of or that has an interesting cover that just kinda grabs me. I also check the date on the records, checking for records from the 60s or 70s. I usually avoid stuff from the 80s unless it's hip-hop, Prince, or something else just for listening.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 05:17 AM

A guy I used to work with used to hit the op shop at lunch, he had this hustle buying up all the name brand sunglasses.

I used to give him five bucks and tell him to buy the album with the weirdest looking cover.

Only once did he come back with a naked man, the rest of the time we were gravy
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

some advice i would give wannabe "diggers" would be to develop a legitimate interest in all sorts of music. don't just go diving for samples to be just like madlib or dilla. i "dug" for fifteen years without ever knowing i was a "crate digger". i'm just an eclectic music lover
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:13 PM

some advice i would give wannabe "diggers" would be to develop a legitimate interest in all sorts of music. don't just go diving for samples to be just like madlib or dilla.


What's funny is that lib/dilla found these samples through what advice you're giving

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 06:56 AM

some advice i would give wannabe "diggers" would be to develop a legitimate interest in all sorts of music. don't just go diving for samples to be just like madlib or dilla. i "dug" for fifteen years without ever knowing i was a "crate digger". i'm just an eclectic music lover

THIS.

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 09:26 AM

1) i buy a giant stack of old records

2) i go home and masturbate on top of said records

3) whichever ones don't break or get stained i keep for sampling

this is a funny post

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 02:57 PM

I would advise people to find the cheap spots. I have a spot that sells all records for $1 and the money goes to a charity. Last time I was there was the day the new records hit the shelves, and even though I was competing with 6 other "collectors", I walked away with 80 records. Sometimes the weirdest records have some great samples and if the look lame, other people will pass them up. I don't produce or anything, just love me some music, especially new to me music. Of course I have dropped $30 on a record, but that is rare.... think of spots others have not and you can be rewarded big time. Buy stuff you don't like, but is sought after for trading purposes..

signing out,

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 11:53 AM

$86 with tax...

http://www.flickr.co...08/11590378016/

http://www.flickr.co...80726/lightbox/

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 01:27 PM

$86 with tax...

http://www.flickr.co...08/11590378016/

http://www.flickr.co...80726/lightbox/


Lenny Bruce ftw!
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

I also buy collections if the price is right. I sell/trade the shit I don't want and keep the good stuff. Bought a dj's collection once. He was also a mixer in the 60's up until the early 80's and back then, labels would send you promos to see if you could get it into the clubs or get it in the right person's hands. He gave me his last 5000 records for 150 bucks, he also threw in his performing speakers, his old mixer, and his DVJ's that were the first DVJ's ever put on the market. I asked him why and he said it's because he saw how much I loved music and how excited I was to get to talk with a guy with his history, (he had been a personal favorite of Diana Ross and the Supremes and helped mix some of their stuff) which goes along with Grifty. You gotta genuinely enjoy every aspect of the music you're making AND the music you're taking. Some records have good samples but every record has a story behind it and is worth something to someone, and you should treat it as such.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 07:36 PM

Is it just me or do y'all find that there is a dividing line between what you sample and you have just for listening too?

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:48 AM

I mostly buy records for sampling as opposed to pleasure. I usually first check the records creds to see if it has a noteworthy drummer such as Steve Gadd (Chick Corea, Weather Report). I then check to see what instruments are played on the album. It has to be no more than 5 bucks unless it's really ill shit. (Trying to make money, see?) I don't buy if it was made after 80' usually. If the store allows me to listen to what I find before I buy I'll sit there all day and listen to 30 second portions to get a feel of each record to determine whether to keep it or not.

As far a records that I specifically want I just get through discogs.

I can't stand these handlebar mustache dorks that hang around with their iphones out half the time like a bunch of fucking momos. Really counterproductive.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 05:28 PM

I can't stand these handlebar mustache dorks that hang around with their iphones out half the time like a bunch of fucking momos. Really counterproductive.

momos? Are you Joey Diaz?

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:27 PM

He gave me a shout out on the first podcast of the year bwahaa.
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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:30 PM

I look for the style, the year, song names, and the cover, If I see a record with no English on it I get it for the fact that its not from America. I mostly base my next dig from my last dig, cuz now I have the knowledge of what I thought was good and what was not. Digging for records is like searching for samples on youtube, you start with an artist you know and branch off into new music. Do yourself a favor and buy in alot of records. Look for the dirtiest and grimiest. PEACE
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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:02 PM

take chances. You will get burned, but you may get rewarded... big time.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:35 PM

1) i buy a giant stack of old records

2) i go home and masturbate on top of said records

3) whichever ones don't break or get stained i keep for sampling


hahah yes.

alternatively. buy a big stack of records and listen to them.
listen to them again
and again

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:37 PM

Is it just me or do y'all find that there is a dividing line between what you sample and you have just for listening too?


yeah. some real dope shit i will keep aside, not just because i like to play the song, but in fear of ruining a classic.

Some things are just better off left alone.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:49 PM

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