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#1 AzMatic

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:46 PM

Hey guys, I'm looking to get started making beats. I got FL Studio a while back and I didn't like it much for what I wanted to do. Anyway, I'm looking for an MPC or something else I can make sampled beats on without it being a controller for a computer. Something I can use by itself. Mostly I'm looking for an MPC, probably a 1000. I'm just getting started so I don't want to spend too much money. And I think a 1000 would work for what I'm trying to do. I want to buy used to cut costs and I don't want it to cost more than $300-$400. This might be hard, but does anyone have any advice on where to get reliable MPCs cheaply?

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:05 PM

you're not gonna find an MPC that cheap, lol.
you're much better off going with the Roland SP-404SX or something.

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:30 PM

It might be worth looking at the MPC 500 for that price. Only difference is 4 less pads (which doesn't really matter if you're sequencing beats anyway) and you have to chop samples by ear using numbers, which I find is better than a waveform anyway. I have an MPC 500 and SP 404 together but at this price range the MPC is the better all rounder

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Yeah, I've seen decent 500's from $230-400+ and 2000's from $280-400+, but the 1000's seem to be holding around $500-600+. Keep checking craigslist.org. Check the "Hardware For Sale" forum at MPC-Forums.com, you have to make an account to view it and some of the posts are in Europe. Try your local Guitar Center, they usually have a bunch of busted, over-priced used gear, but sometimes you get lucky. Plus you can haggle the price, especially on used gear and they usually let you return it if your not happy with something. Frequent pawnshops. If your brave enough try ebay.

Since they are not in production anymore, most of the ones in good shape are gonna hold price and eventually start increasing. With that budget be prepared to shop for a while, which gives you more time to save. Just make sure you know a little about the machine, so you can test it's functionality if buying in person. But you never know when your gonna run into that dude that is hard up for some quick cash or someone that really doesn't know what they have.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:50 AM

ive seen mpc 2000 xl's going for 250-300 (uk)

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:56 AM

Mpc is overated. Check out sp 404 or 303

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:16 AM

If you want to loop stuff and use drum breaks the 404 is better for that, but if you want to make your own drum patterns, pitch a sample using the 16 levels function so you can play the sample, the MPC is a lot better, that's why I have both

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:37 AM

http://used.guitarce...dgear/index.cfm

look for MPC
You can pick up a 1000 for 349-400 range usually.
MPC 2000 for 199-300 range
MPC 2000XL for 300-400.


I got my 60 II from there on clearance for 500.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:30 PM

Sweet thanks guys. Does anyone have recommendations for like brands for female rca to male 1/4 inch trs adapters? I need some to plug in my tt to the MPC. All I can find is Hosa...

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:05 PM

Hosa is pretty good. Radio Shack usually has some high quality adaptors, but they are pricey. I wouldn't worry about them too much, because adaptors are usually solid connections on the inside without wires to short out. I just wouldn't stack a bunch together. Are you using a pre-amp like a mixer? I think the 5000 is the only MPC you can plug a turntable directly into, unless you have a turntable with a built in pre-amp?
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:26 PM

This is what you want as a phono pre amp, it's not perfect but it's cheap and you are on a budget. You can go phono into it and rather than phono out it has a stereo jack out as well, so with a stereo Y cable it can go straight into the MPC's input jacks http://www.behringer...ucts/PP400.aspx
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Posted 08 December 2013 - 06:43 PM

I was thinking of getting the Audio Technica AT-LP120 because it's direct drive, comes with a built-in preamp, and has pitch control. It's probably my cheapest option, the only thing I am worried about is the fact that the RCA cables are part of the tt and can't be replaced if they ever break. Other than that, I think I'll just grab that and some Hosa cables based on your advice.

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

However, I do have a Behringer Xenyx 802 with a mic preamp but I wouldn't expect that to work with a turntable. http://www.behringer...oducts/802.aspx

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 08:45 PM

However, I do have a Behringer Xenyx 802 with a mic preamp but I wouldn't expect that to work with a turntable. http://www.behringer...oducts/802.aspx


That would be fine

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 12:01 AM

However, I do have a Behringer Xenyx 802 with a mic preamp but I wouldn't expect that to work with a turntable. http://www.behringer...oducts/802.aspx


No, you can't use a console mixer to preamp a turntable. Microphone preamps are low impedance, only for a mic or a guitar. A turntable is high impedance. There's a chance you could blow something if you hook it up to a mic input, especially if you accidently had phantom power on. Then if you plugged it into a line input, it wouldn't have enough gain to amp the turntable to a decent level. Plus turntables generally have separate ground wire that connects to a tt preamp, dj mixer, or a stereo receiver, if you don't hook this up your gonna have a horrible humming noise. 1 of the 3 I just listed will bring a tt w/o a preamp up to line level. Newer tt's with built-in preamp are usually grounded through the power supply, so you can hook it straight to a line-in on a mixer or the mpc.

I was thinking of getting the Audio Technica AT-LP120 because it's direct drive, comes with a built-in preamp, and has pitch control. It's probably my cheapest option, the only thing I am worried about is the fact that the RCA cables are part of the tt and can't be replaced if they ever break. Other than that, I think I'll just grab that and some Hosa cables based on your advice.


Yeah, there's not too many tt's that the RCA's aren't hardwired on. I wouldn't worry about that either, it would be the easiest thing to repair on the unit, even for a novice at soldering. My old Tech SL-1200, that's about 20 years old still has the original RCA plugs.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:17 AM

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:51 PM

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:21 PM

No, you can't use a console mixer to preamp a turntable. Microphone preamps are low impedance, only for a mic or a guitar. A turntable is high impedance. There's a chance you could blow something if you hook it up to a mic input, especially if you accidently had phantom power on. Then if you plugged it into a line input, it wouldn't have enough gain to amp the turntable to a decent level. Plus turntables generally have separate ground wire that connects to a tt preamp, dj mixer, or a stereo receiver, if you don't hook this up your gonna have a horrible humming noise. 1 of the 3 I just listed will bring a tt w/o a preamp up to line level. Newer tt's with built-in preamp are usually grounded through the power supply, so you can hook it straight to a line-in on a mixer or the mpc.



Yeah, there's not too many tt's that the RCA's aren't hardwired on. I wouldn't worry about that either, it would be the easiest thing to repair on the unit, even for a novice at soldering. My old Tech SL-1200, that's about 20 years old still has the original RCA plugs.


it will sound lo fi do :)

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:33 PM

Sunny just got a great deal on an MPC......lucky duck.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:19 AM

I found a 2000 for $250 on Craigslist. Had no money in my pocket when I found it online at 6:00 am. Spent the whole day selling about 350 records to a few of the local shops. By 7:00 pm I had the MPC in my truck! Now I got a 303, a 404, and a 2000; or as I refer to them The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
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Posted 30 December 2013 - 09:32 AM

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They're calling this the cheapest MPC ever. Comes with (i suppose a dumbed down version of) the same software that comes with the Ren. It lists for $150. Thoughts?

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:55 AM

used.guitarcenter.com ! Saw an SP404SX going fi like 250 i think a few days ago. I'm planning on getting a MPC 1k over there when a black one is available. Seen em' go as low as 299 maybe cheaper when I grabbed my 404sx a few weeks back. The prices on each one are usually never the same idk why, but fuck it they pretty much let you steal gear from em

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:57 AM

Blue MPC1k going for 279.99 right now. Don't sleep!

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:22 AM

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They're calling this the cheapest MPC ever. Comes with (i suppose a dumbed down version of) the same software that comes with the Ren. It lists for $150. Thoughts?


it looks like a Dance Dance Revolution controller.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

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They're calling this the cheapest MPC ever. Comes with (i suppose a dumbed down version of) the same software that comes with the Ren. It lists for $150. Thoughts?


I've got an mpc1000 at home but was thinking about getting this for on the go work, but when I looked into it, I saw a lot of the limitations are hardly worth it unless you can't afford something better. I'd rather have an mpc500 for $500 than this thing.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

Blue MPC1k going for 279.99 right now. Don't sleep!


If you cop the blue 1k you had better upgrade them pads. Better yet, find a black 1k since the pad upgrade for the blue 1k was arount 250 last time i checked.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

thanks guys. I just got the 500.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:49 PM

The 500 will force you to chop by ear instead of seeing the wav. In some ways, learning by ear will help a lot.
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Posted 08 February 2014 - 03:21 PM

it looks like a Dance Dance Revolution controller.


I'm still curious about this thing. I've owned both the 2000XL and the 1000 (blue with the "bad pads"). Has anyone used this or at least tried it out? Fuck them Akai promotional videos where they use stock sounds to demonstrate it.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:31 AM

you're not gonna find an MPC that cheap, lol.
you're much better off going with the Roland SP-404SX or something.


on the contrary, if you do some ebay digging you can. i got my 1000 for $360 (thats w/ the shipping) i was just on ebay everyday for two weeks lol. things in mint shape just had to upgrade my ram to 128mb and got a 4 gig CF card. don't buy a "maxed out" mpc because those two things i just mentioned are "maxing" it out and it cost me under $100 to do. i see the maxed out ones being sold for well over $500.

http://www.mpc-forum...pic.php?t=26775 <---- good thread explaining memory and such. if i remember correctly this is the exact site i bought my ram;

http://www.crucial.c...LE=CT32M64S4W7E

with the stock ram that comes with your mpc you have a sample time of about 30 seconds, with it upgraded to the 128 your total sample time allowed becomes i believe 22 minutes or so? adding the 4 gig CF card allows you to save up to 4 gigs of sequences, programs, all that other shiz. the blue ones are also known to have more problems than the black model (so i've heard) but haven't found any definitive proof for that. the 1000 is definitely a prime tool for beatmaking if you want an analog machine but you still wont be able to much with your beats after unless you buy a mixer to record thru or you record your tracks internally to the mpc then transfer those wave files to your computer and re-sequence them in the DAW of your choice (i find FL to be the easiest.)




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