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#1 Tastik BEATS

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:03 PM

anyone know how to make the high pitched lead sound on tracks like nuthn but a g thang and let me ride ?

whats the synth formula ?

and how do you manipulate the pitch wheel when you do it ?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:37 PM

very good question. i've wanted to know how to make west-coast synths in general, a lá Dam Funk and others, for quite a while now...like for example i was listening to this track:

http://llamallama.ba...m/track/strange

and this one:



and trying to figure out the formula for these synths they're using. my FL plugins just aren't cutting the mustard :(

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 02:43 AM

very good question. i've wanted to know how to make west-coast synths in general, a lá Dam Funk and others, for quite a while now...like for example i was listening to this track:

http://llamallama.ba...m/track/strange

and this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhOxqT_6A50

and trying to figure out the formula for these synths they're using. my FL plugins just aren't cutting the mustard :(


that is so dope

apparently lots of this stuff is made on the minimoog. I figured out the whistle aswell

the whistle is basically just a saw tooth wave and portamento

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:57 AM

that is so dope

apparently lots of this stuff is made on the minimoog. I figured out the whistle aswell

the whistle is basically just a saw tooth wave and portamento


what's the pitch level? i always imagined it to be cranked all the way up. but yeah, for pitch control most MIDI keyboards have a pitch bend wheel somewhere on the control board...or i guess alternatively you could link the pitch knob on your DAW to any MIDI fader/knob and do it that way.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:05 AM

Take a sin wave shape (the number 2 for example, from the sytrus shapes in FL), tick the porta and mono box, tweak the crossfade loop knob (this might make a difference in the sound), add reverb, delay, flanger, flangus, whatever you want....play with effects until you like what you hear. Most of the sounds are usually C5 and higher.
EDIT: LOL I was just playing with it and put the loop mode on ping pong and obtained a crazy sound similar to the ones in The Legend of Zelda.
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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:31 AM

Take a sin wave shape (the number 2 for example, from the sytrus shapes in FL), tick the porta and mono box, tweak the crossfade loop knob (this might make a difference in the sound), add reverb, delay, flanger, flangus, whatever you want....play with effects until you like what you hear. Most of the sounds are usually C5 and higher.
EDIT: LOL I was just playing with it and put the loop mode on ping pong and obtained a crazy sound similar to the ones in The Legend of Zelda.


did you save it? i'm interested to hear what that sounds like haha.
and on another note, did anyone figure out the synth formula for like the classic west-coast leads i was referring to above (not the whistle)? i wanna make some funky, funky shit but i don't know how -_-

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

Yeah, here's the template:
http://www64.zippysh...34816/file.html

I haven't added any effects to it, just ticked the porta and mono boxes, slightly tweaked the slide, ticked the ping pong loop mode and put the crossfade knob (crf) all the way up. Oh before starting, tweak the crf knob a bit and then return it all the way up since the wave seems to be different at the moment FL loads the project, doing that will put it back in place. You can turn the volume envelope off if you wish, it'll make it sound more 8-bit.
I haven't played TLoZ in a long time but this definitely reminded me of it. Try playing any melody on your keyboard and you'll see what I mean.

As for the leads, I don't know anything about them, sorry. I was only interested in getting the whistle down some months ago so I looked up different tutorials. There should be some tutorials for the leads as well, try searching for them.
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Posted 20 November 2013 - 05:47 PM

what about that synthy bass. the slap bass kinda b-bu-bu-boom-bap

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:11 AM

what about that synthy bass. the slap bass kinda b-bu-bu-boom-bap


i think it's some sort of combo of pitched down sine/saw/square waves, with the ADSR basically turned all the way to the left for all four settings. then you can adjust it to your liking, but i was getting some pretty cool, sharp bass hits that way...still haven't found the perfect match for like an '80s funk style beat though. i'm more obsessed with the leads, i'm trying to look up the Sega Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog synths formula to try and match the leads for that Dam Funk song i posted above ^.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 01:36 PM

i think it's some sort of combo of pitched down sine/saw/square waves, with the ADSR basically turned all the way to the left for all four settings. then you can adjust it to your liking, but i was getting some pretty cool, sharp bass hits that way...still haven't found the perfect match for like an '80s funk style beat though. i'm more obsessed with the leads, i'm trying to look up the Sega Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog synths formula to try and match the leads for that Dam Funk song i posted above ^.


so no attack, no decay, no sustain, no resonance ?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:51 PM

maybe toss in a little decay, cause i just realized turning them all to the left silences the instrument lol. minimal attack and minimal decay with no hold, no sustain, no release, etc. that way when you hit a key it's just a slappy thud instead of a long drone that goes on forever until you lift your finger off the key.

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 02:21 PM

maybe toss in a little decay, cause i just realized turning them all to the left silences the instrument lol. minimal attack and minimal decay with no hold, no sustain, no release, etc. that way when you hit a key it's just a slappy thud instead of a long drone that goes on forever until you lift your finger off the key.


yeah thats what ill do

still cant get it perfect tho

wish there was a guide somewhere online for all this stuff




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