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#1 Haef

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

So I have a decent microphone for rapping/possible live instrumentals, a turntable, and ableton live.. but what machine should I get? what samplers do STMB users recommend?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:04 PM

If your using Ableton to make beats, you don't necessarily need a sampler. More so a usb/midi controller, and that just depends on what your prefences are. Do you want piano keys, drum pads, rotary knobs, sliders, on/off buttons or all of them? There's tons of different controllers on the market, I guess it would all depend on what your in to and how much you want to pay.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:18 PM

If your using Ableton to make beats, you don't necessarily need a sampler. More so a usb/midi controller, and that just depends on what your prefences are. Do you want piano keys, drum pads, rotary knobs, sliders, on/off buttons or all of them? There's tons of different controllers on the market, I guess it would all depend on what your in to and how much you want to pay.


im into those funky/jazzy and experimental cloud rap beats.what is a midi controller?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:34 PM

Nowadays, a midi/usb controller is a hardware device that allows you to play/control sounds or edit parameters (like the mixer or effects) in your DAW software.

http://www.midi-cont...er-reviews.com/

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:46 PM

got ya. Any recommendations on a good midi controller?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 11:32 PM

I'd hate to recommend one without knowing how you like to produce. If your just getting started I would suggest not spending a lot, in case it doesn't suit you. But if your the kind of person that likes buying top notch gear because you know you'll eventually learn it, then go for it. A lot of the MPC style ones, with pressure sensitive pads that you can play/trigger drums or chopped samples, are popular (like the maschine, akai mpd's). But someone that is more musically trained might want one that has piano keys (which you can also play drums and trigger sample chops on). Personally I like having both, if I'm gonna program drums live I'd rather do it on pads, but if I'm gonna play a synth or VST instrument, I'd rather do it with keys. I also like having knobs and faders that I can assign to effects to tweak. I have a old korg microkontrol that has a mini keyboard, pads, faders, and knobs that has suited me for years. The pads aren't that great, but I also have a old akai mpd16 if I want to hit pads. So, you can hook up multiple controllers if you like. I'd suggest reading up on some that interest you, maybe even look up reviews and videos on youtube to see some in action, then come back and ask about particular one.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:48 AM

I agree with Hungryman it's tough to recommend a controller. My first piece of equipment was the Maschine and I still love this thing, but I use it in it's own software most of the time.
If you're gonna use Ableton I'd suggest the Akai MPK Mini as a low budget start up. It has keys, knobs and even pads that (in my opinion) are pretty great. It's a cheap piece of hardware and it does the job, plus I think you will enjoy it later on as you gather more equipment. I'm curious to see what you end up buying!

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:12 AM

MASCHINE MK2, don't go near the MPC REN, and go and research using maschine to control Ableton 9, the 2 are made for each other, the coloured pads are amazing, it's portable, if you got a laptop setup that is. Your workflow options are endless with the combination of these 2. The advantage is it's an amazing MIDI controller but has it's own software, that you can open up in any software like ableton as a vst, meaning you can load up more than 1, you can control nearly everything in the software, most other controllers you can't do this with. also has it's own built in sampler, well handy for vinyl. It's all designed to get that idea in your head out as quickly as possible. Failing that check the SP 404 and the rest of the family.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:40 AM

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

i got some q's

Do you want to use your "machine" without lugging a PC / laptop around?
How much do you want to spend?
What type of effects do you need?

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 12:47 AM

Put it this way I got Maschine, and today I may very well purchase an sp404 OG, don't have to do one or the other, just have the lot!!! you want something bad enough the resources will always appear for you one way or another.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:15 PM

So i found out I have a YPG 225 keyboard in my basement. That can be used as a midi controller right? I mean the more I use programs like ableton the more I feel like i dont actually need any equipment, the DAW is really good.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:19 AM

So i found out I have a YPG 225 keyboard in my basement. That can be used as a midi controller right? I mean the more I use programs like ableton the more I feel like i dont actually need any equipment, the DAW is really good.

Told you something would pop up.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:46 AM

Get one production tool and become proficient at it and then move on to whatever else you think will help you develop and grow.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:34 PM



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:25 AM

So i found out I have a YPG 225 keyboard in my basement. That can be used as a midi controller right? I mean the more I use programs like ableton the more I feel like i dont actually need any equipment, the DAW is really good.

Yes sir. Looks like you can use it as a midi controller through their USB-MIDI drivers. Here's a link for the latest drivers and manual.
http://download.yama...oduct_id=109782

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMc25iLrpE8

thought you guys would appreciate this.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:52 AM

you could buy a old mpc2000 with batterd I/Os and use it as a midi controller, feels as good as it gets and costs way less than any serious midi controller
check out "Geist" if you want to use a software sampler.
if you wanna go hard, get a mv8000/mpc4000.




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