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#481 James Frank.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 10:58 PM

i didn't say police brutality wasn't an issue,  ^  but that's a completely unrelated video.

your logic is telling me that you think just because some police shootings have been found to be unjustified and unnecessary, that all police shootings are now unjustified and unnecessary.

 

i mean, i'm not even being confrontational about it or anything, just presenting questions that popped in my head immediately after the fact...you choosing not to dignify it with a response, like i just said some whacky crack-pot shit that doesn't even deserve to be validated, comes off as a little indignant and petty.  this is how debates work, man, we open the dialogue up by asking questions and discussing points -- not just implying that what i said was too stupid to even illicit a response from you.



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Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:05 AM

How dare you JF. For shame.
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:02 AM

I'm am not saying all police shootings are unnecessary, but they are given the non lethal weaponry available.... What I am saying is those cops rolled up in that kid real quick and shot him. Dead. The video is grainy, but it looked to me like the kid was in a non threatening pose when they shot.

Cops here in North America are trained to be dicks. They act like dicks. As a collective they are dicks. They abuse their power. They are over aggressive. They are straight up dicks.

Given what has been occurring, I would think there would be a little less show of police siding from you James.

That kid was cute and they shot him dead real quick.

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:43 AM

I'm am not saying all police shootings are unnecessary, but they are given the non lethal weaponry available.... What I am saying is those cops rolled up in that kid real quick and shot him. Dead. The video is grainy, but it looked to me like the kid was in a non threatening pose when they shot.

Cops here in North America are trained to be dicks. They act like dicks. As a collective they are dicks. They abuse their power. They are over aggressive. They are straight up dicks.

Given what has been occurring, I would think there would be a little less show of police siding from you James.

That kid was cute and they shot him dead real quick.

 

i get what you're saying, man, but i also look at each one of these incidents as their own thing.  it seems like the media's conditioning us in a Pavlovian way to immediately respond negatively to any story that has the buzzwords "black teen shot by cop", regardless of context.  do you really think that cops are intentionally going out looking for black people to shoot -- especially now???

 

that seems a little unreasonable to make the blanket statement that all police are dicks; in fact, aren't generalizations like that a huge no-no for literally every other group of people in the news right now?  i think there is an issue with police brutality, definitely -- and i'm not denying a lot of the issues you bring up, but you also can't let your emotional response to the case override the importance of the actual evidence in a case like this...especially when you can clearly see in the video (which again, is sped up by a factor that none of us are certain of) that this kid was aiming a pellet gun with the orange safety cap removed at passersby in the park, i mean are we really gonna justify actions like that from a kid that's almost in high school?

 

he's 12, but age doesn't automatically designate innocence or absolve someone of doing something wrong; he was at an age where, if anything else, he should have been aware of the dire consequences one may suffer from openly waving anything looking even remotely like a gun in public...i was arguing with people all last night on YouTube about this, and the main argument people seem to have is that because he's 12, he MUST have been completely innocent, completely unaware and completely caught off-guard -- which is a logical fallacy to assume that every kid his age is incapable of going on a shooting spree, it's happened numerous times in the past decade.

 

it was a shitty misunderstanding, but the keyword is misunderstanding...and there are multiple sides as to who should take the blame.  it's not this cut and dry "all police want black people dead, therefore police are bad" situation, and i highly doubt that the police officer in question was out looking to shoot and kill a kid that day.



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Posted 27 November 2014 - 11:57 AM

Fair enough, of course you can't pigeon hole each and every individual on the police force. That is stupid, but you can generalize. I mean, Americans loooove football! Now, I am quite sure many do not, by they are not the majority.


Cops are dicks.

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:48 PM

Cops are dicks.

I disagree. I think there's a lot who are dicks and become police officers to abuse their false sense of power. But I think mostly they've just been thrown in to a shitty system (police force) that isn't anything like they expected. Instead of upholding peace they're kind of moulded in to becoming dicks just to survive within the game. Sleep deprived, under-trained, governmental fund raisers on a shitty wage... Couple all of that with the fact that they're working in a highly hostile environment surronded by people who have the 'cops are dicks' mentality I can see why they're on edge and have a 'dick' persona up, without it they wouldn't last very long... My cousin become a police officer thinking she was doing an honarouble service. She had depression within the first month.

I have empathy for cops. When I see a dicky arrogant one I just feel sorry for them because I know underneath the arrogant dick facade there's just a scared person that knows they lack the tools, support and training to do the job properly. All that aside there's definitely bad ones who go on the hunt for action and trouble but as frank said I don't see that in this isolated situation... I see some seriously bad parenting... Not that the police did everything right! But I think they probably didn't know how to do everything right because no ones ever told them how to handle a 12 year old waving around a gun (you can't blame them for not knowing it was a toy).

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 06:52 PM

 Instead of upholding peace they're kind of moulded in to becoming dicks

 

 

 

Exactly. Its the culture. Its how they are trained. Its not that any dude who is a dick in real life thus must be a cop. Its them as a collective. They breed dickishness. 

 



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:25 AM

That shit looked like an ambush to me. Driving right up next to a person known to have a gun (real or not) doesn't seem like smart procedure. $0.02.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 06:49 PM

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 01:50 PM

 

 

Exactly. Its the culture. Its how they are trained. Its not that any dude who is a dick in real life thus must be a cop. Its them as a collective. They breed dickishness. 

 

What the fuck man...



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 09:19 PM

Anybody have thoughts on the Cosby matter? I will say though there is much circumstantial and proposed testimony-there has been a complete indictment in the media that I find a bit strange. I will add that I loved all things Cosby growing up-but found the Cosby show and it's associated humor to be drek. I know the stars of that area were quite powerful-but...

Everything in this day and age is so very weird-especially the sport world. So you can now divest an NBA owner of his assets and force a team sale(yeah, whatever); and you can convict a player of wife battering and disciplining his child. Seems a bit much no?

When did women decide that they were experts in male sport?

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 05:42 AM

Too many cases against him for it to not be true.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 07:53 PM

That the South Park dudes jumped on board for an attack makes me believe that this is a witch hunt. Those dudes are like on TMZs direct dial. I've been watching Harvey Levin since his days on peeps court and follow dem laws. This Mfer is only there to spin the news -nothing legal about the opinions he offers. I am not buying shit until I see some evidence: greatness of the movie title baseketball notwithstanding. South Park is little more than the Howard stern show.

But I did ask someone the same ? And they responded similarly. Where is Robert KarDassian when you need him? OJ trial reference my dudes.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 04:24 PM

i mean, it's a really tough situation because of the fact that so much of it relies on all of these women's testimonies.  a lot of these crimes were allegedly committed decades ago, so they pretty much can't conduct a full-scale criminal investigation for evidence since it doesn't really exist at this point anymore.

 

it's very hard to turn and say 20+ women unrelated to each other, ages 40-70 are all wrong and conniving to get a piece of the Cosby estate...the people that are insinuating that seem like they're a bit too hopeful for Cosby's public image instead of focusing on these poor victims.

 

i'm not too big on a lot of the PC bullshit, but i do see things like victim blaming, whether intentional or not, definitely entering into the public sphere when things like this break.  i mean, sure, there are scheming gold diggers out there -- we all know it.  but like ten of these women have specifically stated that they have no intentions of pursuing any civil suits whatsoever, that they just want to side with the other victims and explain their experience to counteract the people who still can't believe something like this could happen.

 

 

if you hear some of the stories, they're eerily candid -- i find it very hard to believe that not only are all these girls manipulating the system, but are also the most adept spin doctors this decade to dupe the public into believing straight up lies.  at the very least Cosby's a fucking creep, sorry but there's like 20+ stories of girls being drugged by him under the auspices that he was helping them -- that's fucking next-level sick shit if it is indeed true.  people say to wait until he has his day in court, but in this particular case i don't feel like he's unfairly being dragged through the mud.

 

the fact that he refuses to even acknowledge it speaks volumes.  did you guys see that AP interview where he basically tried turning it around back on the reporter and acting like the AP has no integrity for addressing MULTIPLE PUBLIC RAPE ACCUSATIONS?

 

as if anyone at that point still gave a shit about his exhibition on African Art (which, btw, looks like an amazing show to see in person)...idk though, that many people can't be wrong.  Michael Jackson didn't even get heat like this, and he's worth way more than Cosby and more well-known i'd argue.



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Posted 13 December 2014 - 07:11 PM

I love the fact that a week after Burress put him on blast Cos' PR people thought having a meme contest via his official Twitter page was actually a good idea. That showed how out of touch his people are with how teh Internetz operates in 2014. I would LOVED to have been a fly on the wall when all the rape memes started pouring in.
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Posted 13 December 2014 - 07:16 PM

I bet he made this sound.
"gahZeddleBeBop!!!?!"

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 07:54 PM

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 08:49 AM

Good points JF.

I am a bit defense-minded-so I appreciate more objective, sober opinions. Kind of hard to look at some of these allegations: http://www.dailymail...girlfriend.html

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Posted Yesterday, 04:23 PM

Sony cancels Christmas theatrical release of The Interview due to terrorist threats. Bunch of pussies.

 

http://variety.com/2...mas-1201382032/


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Posted Yesterday, 04:54 PM

that's fucking disgusting.  how pathetic have we become as a country?

meanwhile you have these flag-waving neo-conservative douchebags saying our nation is infallible, and speaking out against it is treasonous and completely against what we stand for...yeah, really?

 

which part of being an American are you so proud of -- the unnecessary civilian casualties on the frontlines, the stagnant bureaucracy of Congress, the out of control black budget, or the senseless kowtowing to radical terrorists who want us dead regardless of what we do?

 

in the end, it's always comedy bearing the brunt of the world's hang-ups.  this shit happens more and more frequently now, ever since the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoon controversy terrorists have been increasingly validated and appeased in our fuck-wad pussy culture...yeah, this totally doesn't set precedent for ISIS to incidentally control us through fear.  what a bunch of fucking bullshit -- censorship is probably the one thing that truly enrages me, since it directly affects everything i enjoy doing.  i'd rather be dead and still have my dignity than limp away from a controversy with my dick tucked between my legs, totally emasculated and living in fear of a nation the size of Ohio.  why are we validating an Asian midget that loves Dennis Rodman???!?!?!!?!?  tell me, please.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:52 PM

Given the nature of entertainment in this day and age-I would be remiss not to offer up that this is a bit contrived an action on the part of studios. This perceived threat just doesn't pass the smell test. I appreciate that y'all may find the actors in the movie to be funny-but, I can't say the same. Besides, Dennis Rodman still lurks and it would be quite a dishonor to him to have a Hollywood studio bombed. Is there any insurance for the investors of this grand film?

I don't believe it.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:59 PM

No plans to release it digitally or to DVD...

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Posted Today, 04:12 AM

James Franco is cringe worthy.




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