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#1 shakey finch

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 11:43 AM

hello people of the stmb

theres always alot of people on here asking advice on buying more equipment but im thinking of getting rid of some! basically im moving later in the year hopefully and will not have a great deal of space to work in,infact more than likely il have my bed,tv,wardobes and a whole other gang of shit there,ive always liked the look of small tidy set ups as oppsed to wires hanging out everywere(much like mine)

ok il list my gear first

mpc 2000,zip drive etc
g4 mac
002 digidesign soundcard
tla ivory valve compressor
lexicon fx unit
novation bass station rack
behringer digi eq
soundcraft/spirit desk
spirit monitors
2xtechnics turntables
1xtechnics cd turntable
vestax mixer
technics mixer
sp 303
evoloution midi keyboard
patchbay(fuckin wires all over the shop!!)

and loads of random shit(reel to reel,bongos etc etc)

ok to make it easier the following is staying no if's or buts
mpc
g4 mac
tla ivory compressor
303
turntables,mixer etc
novation bass sation
002 sound card

should i get rid of the desk and use my 8 outs and put them directly into my soundcard? i need a small(ish) simple set up

any help/suggestions appreciated
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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:18 PM

ok im gonna rename this topic 'does madlib really use a 303' then il get 3000000 views :lol:

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:30 PM

Man, I wouldn't know what to tell you man. All of that shit is useful. I gues you will just have to ask yourself what you do and don't use and make your eliminations from there. I'm sure there is tons of random shit that you don't use very often. Just take that shit out, and make your wire system as clean as possible. That is huge, making sure your wires are organized right. It takes time and it ain't fun, but invest in some wire ties, or those velcro wrap thingies and see which wires you can bundle together to keep the shit as clean as possible. And if you have wires going across the ground, get one of those floor covers for them (you see them in offices all the time). All of that shit (wire ties and floor wire covers) can get bought for cheap.

Also, it helps to completely re-arrange the room to maximize space, that can help big time too.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:33 PM

Man, I wouldn't know what to tell you man. All of that shit is useful. I gues you will just have to ask yourself what you do and don't use and make your eliminations from there. I'm sure there is tons of random shit that you don't use very often. Just take that shit out, and make your wire system as clean as possible. That is huge, making sure your wires are organized right. It takes time and it ain't fun, but invest in some wire ties, or those velcro wrap thingies and see which wires you can bundle together to keep the shit as clean as possible. And if you have wires going across the ground, get one of those floor covers for them (you see them in offices all the time). All of that shit (wire ties and floor wire covers) can get bought for cheap.

Also, it helps to completely re-arrange the room to maximize space, that can help big time too.


appreciate the reply

yeh gonna have to see what i really do need and what i dont,im thinking of just using software to do fx and mixing so that would rule out the behringer eq unit,the lexicon and the desk,i just hate the patchbay and constantly having to re arrange everything :lol:

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 01:44 PM

tie wraps will fuck up your cables big time.. stick with velcro wraps.. snug but not tight.


i like the idea of your new set up. Don't sell the old stuff. keep it at a relatives house if you must!

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 02:00 PM

yikes!! thats a pretty killer arsenal of equiptment youve got there...


post a link to your beats or you're soft.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 03:18 PM

what kind of vestax mixer?

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 05:56 PM

damn mate, i thought u was gonna say you wanted to sell the ivory - i would snap that in a second.

all i would say is, no dont get rid of your desk. its always useful to have one, for aux/FX sends and setting up monitor mixes etc, as i'm sure you know.

maybe invest in a rack (if you dont already have one) so you can get some stuff off the floor or whatever you have stuff on - tables etc..racks are always good for space saving...

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 07:43 AM

post a link to your beats or you're soft.


Shit, I just laughed out loud at the office on this one. I love One Trick Pony for this. He's always like "what the fuck are you producing?".

"Post a link to your beats or you're soft". That's it, my signature is changing as I we speak.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:28 AM

Shit, I just laughed out loud at the office on this one. I love One Trick Pony for this. He's always like "what the fuck are you producing?".

"Post a link to your beats or you're soft". That's it, my signature is changing as I we speak.


he's actually just taken that from soulstrut.com they say shit like that all the time

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 10:53 AM

he's actually just taken that from soulstrut.com they say shit like that all the time


Aww, I was gonna give him credit for a pretty good line.

That's a really tough situation you have there. I wish I could help but all I can say is (and someone said it before) DON'T GET RID OF YOUR GEAR JUST BECAUSE OF SPACE PROBLEMS. If you never use something then maybe but I know I've gotten rid of equipment in the past and regretted it later. Just store it somehwere until you get your dream place and you have all the room that you want.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 11:07 AM

That's a really tough situation you have there. I wish I could help but all I can say is (and someone said it before) DON'T GET RID OF YOUR GEAR JUST BECAUSE OF SPACE PROBLEMS. If you never use something then maybe but I know I've gotten rid of equipment in the past and regretted it later. Just store it somehwere until you get your dream place and you have all the room that you want.


yeh man i mean cash is a factor aswell i could live without the eq unit as there is plenty of software around for that,i really do need one nice tidy rack aswell

cheers guys

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 12:19 PM

For racks and record shelves, etc. You can make some great shit easily and cheap. I'm sure there are sites that break it down for you.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 12:38 PM

so.... where's this link to your beats, big dawg? ...and yes, that is a soulstrut line. and there's no getting out of it n'all.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 12:50 PM

...and yes, that is a soulstrut line.


Well, I'm still keeping it up as a quote from Pencilface. Soulstrut can eat it. I can't get on to Soulstrut at work, my company firewall thinks it's porn, for some reason.

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 03:47 AM

so.... where's this link to your beats, big dawg? ...and yes, that is a soulstrut line. and there's no getting out of it n'all.


il post em when im good and ready and not before

yaoming? :huh:

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 09:56 AM

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 11:20 AM

hello people of the stmb

theres always alot of people on here asking advice on buying more equipment but im thinking of getting rid of some! basically im moving later in the year hopefully and will not have a great deal of space to work in,infact more than likely il have my bed,tv,wardobes and a whole other gang of shit there,ive always liked the look of small tidy set ups as oppsed to wires hanging out everywere(much like mine)

ok il list my gear first

mpc 2000,zip drive etc
g4 mac
002 digidesign soundcard
tla ivory valve compressor
lexicon fx unit
novation bass station rack
behringer digi eq
soundcraft/spirit desk
spirit monitors
2xtechnics turntables
1xtechnics cd turntable
vestax mixer
technics mixer
sp 303
evoloution midi keyboard
patchbay(fuckin wires all over the shop!!)

and loads of random shit(reel to reel,bongos etc etc)

ok to make it easier the following is staying no if's or buts
mpc
g4 mac
tla ivory compressor
303
turntables,mixer etc
novation bass sation
002 sound card

should i get rid of the desk and use my 8 outs and put them directly into my soundcard? i need a small(ish) simple set up

any help/suggestions appreciated
:mellow:


Simple.... Start Smoking Crack... Your studio will downsize right before your eyes. I promise. You're Welcome in Advance :blink:

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 08:05 PM

dump the behringe.....you can get thosefunctions done real quick with your desk anyways.......

since you have the 002 you can also dump the lexicon and use the ef in pt le.

other than that, i can't recommend anything else because you would be upset at losing too much.



but never.ever...never get rid of the bassstaton..................the soft synth version is bollocks compared to the real thing, but the v station is a good piece of software.

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 08:34 PM

you're keepin all the good stuff. :mellow:

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 09:58 PM

i dont know exACTLY WHAT YORE ASKING BUT WHAT I GATHER YOU DO IS

JUST DO EVERYTHING UP IN THE COMPUTER.

KEEP YOUR HARD WARE/OUTBOARD GEAR THAT YOU NEED OR DEEM ESSENTIAL AND JUST SELL OFF ALL THE EXTRAS...

WITH TEH DOE BUY WHAT SOFTWARE YOU NEED AND A BIG BAG OF WEED.

:mellow:

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:45 AM

you're keepin all the good stuff. :)


lol well yes of course :mellow:

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:48 AM

dump the behringe.....you can get thosefunctions done real quick with your desk anyways.......

since you have the 002 you can also dump the lexicon and use the ef in pt le.

other than that, i can't recommend anything else because you would be upset at losing too much.
but never.ever...never get rid of the bassstaton..................the soft synth version is bollocks compared to the real thing, but the v station is a good piece of software.


thanks man thats the sort of advice i need

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 06:42 PM

If i were you, i wouldnt get rid of your eq, I know alot of things can be done on a computer, but it seems like computer monitors can sound alot different than what u hear with decent speakers*. I am in an audio engineering class (but i am still learning) but one thing that is really important if u are trying to make your mixdowns sound good is knowing the acoustics of your room... and im assuming that the acoustics in your present room will sound alot different than the room you are moving to. Your eq is one of your most powerful tools for treating your room.

What ive done in the past, and you can do if you know how to use a power drill, is build a shelf that can hold all your equipment and save alot of space. This may or may not work for your situation, but it doesnt hurt too consider. Ive found dirt cheap materials that work like a charm.

*my computer speakers are the kind that come with the pc when you take it out the box, which may explain the shitty sound.

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 12:40 PM

I am in an audio engineering class (but i am still learning) but one thing that is really important if u are trying to make your mixdowns sound good is knowing the acoustics of your room... Your eq is one of your most powerful tools for treating your room.


you think its a good idea to use the eq on your stereo receiver? i usually keep the bass turned up a little and the treble up a bit more. but i'm wondering if this is making my mixes flat...is there a better way to eq your room other than just listening to your favorite album and making it sound the way you like?
i kid i worked with from germany said they all use steely dan as a reference to eq sound systems and shit over there. another dude i know (who is an accomplished engineer) likes to use the roots do you want more!!??!?! personally i like abbey road, cause i've heard it so many times and its like eating chicken schnitzel & french fries




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