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J Dilla - The King of Beats

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I'm digging what Egon, J. Rocc, JJ and, yes even House Shoes are doing with the Pay Jay stuff they've been putting out. And I'm definitely looking forward to finally hearing the MCA project since I'm one of three people who didn't go out and dl it.

Regarding ST, I remember an interview with Wolf a few years back where he basically said he didn't really want to put out anything else by Dilla bc he didn't want it to seem like they were trying to abuse his legacy or something along those lines.

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Wolf-if ANYBODY is gonna put out dilla. If it HAS to be done... I think we can all agree stones throw would be the only label we would really trust to do it

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^ dat link to dat interview.

a few quotes:

"It comes down to Ma Dukes, though. She makes all of the decisions, so it would have to come from her. She was with him in his final days and was sleeping on a cot in his room. She took care of him so much. If I was ever presented with doing something that would upset her, I just wouldn’t do it."

"That’s a weird thing for me. I don’t want to criticize people for doing it, but sometimes it can get a little corny. With all of the tribute stuff, I kind of avoid it for the most part. I’m actually doing his birthday party tribute on Tuesday (February 7), which is a video tribute—which is something I’ve never done. I haven’t ever done a video tribute for him, so I was up for that. But I don’t ever aggressively seek out doing Dilla gigs, because sometimes it just gets self-serving."

"And that’s why we kind of fell back after Donuts. Donuts was such a huge success and we could’ve put out The Pizza Man right after it, and capitalized on it monetarily, but I felt kind of strange about it. It was just wrong in my eyes. I’ve always battled with that."

so instead, we will never get the pizza man.

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I see a lot of negative talk about posthumous Dilla releases. What did you guys think of Dillagence? I myself find myself listening to that release quite a bit. It's easily one of my favorite posthumous releases.

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any word on how this sounded? anything new?

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I see a lot of negative talk about posthumous Dilla releases. What did you guys think of Dillagence? I myself find myself listening to that release quite a bit. It's easily one of my favorite posthumous releases.

​Dillagence was cool. My one gripe with it (in retrospect) is that it was released casually, without any real promotion nor purpose. From what I remember in listening to ​Dillagence, a good grip of the beats were new (to me) and exceptionally dope. Would have liked to have seen them released with more focus, maybe even licensed for other artists / projects. I LOVE the Dilla and Busta collab but a whole full-length Busta project gets stale pretty quick –– except for The Coming that is.

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Yeah Dillagence is up there with some of my most-listened to Dilla projects. I think it comes down to Busta knowing Dilla personally so he knew where he was coming from musically and what he was trying to do with the art form, as opposed to the posthumous releases where it was just some rando rapper verbally diarrhea-ing over the beat.

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^ dat link to dat interview.

a few quotes:

"It comes down to Ma Dukes, though. She makes all of the decisions, so it would have to come from her. She was with him in his final days and was sleeping on a cot in his room. She took care of him so much. If I was ever presented with doing something that would upset her, I just wouldn’t do it."

"That’s a weird thing for me. I don’t want to criticize people for doing it, but sometimes it can get a little corny. With all of the tribute stuff, I kind of avoid it for the most part. I’m actually doing his birthday party tribute on Tuesday (February 7), which is a video tribute—which is something I’ve never done. I haven’t ever done a video tribute for him, so I was up for that. But I don’t ever aggressively seek out doing Dilla gigs, because sometimes it just gets self-serving."

"And that’s why we kind of fell back after Donuts. Donuts was such a huge success and we could’ve put out The Pizza Man right after it, and capitalized on it monetarily, but I felt kind of strange about it. It was just wrong in my eyes. I’ve always battled with that."

so instead, we will never get the pizza man.

Wolf is the man for that quote. Incredibly honorable. Long live Stones Throw!!

Wolf-if ANYBODY is gonna put out dilla. If it HAS to be done... I think we can all agree stones throw would be the only label we would really trust to do it

I asked House Shoes (via Twitter) what his favorite posthumous Dilla release was and he said ​Jay Stay Paid. Nature Sounds released that. Nature Sounds is also behind the Dilla Weekend that takes place here in South Florida. They didn't release Dillatronic but they promoted it as though they did. Not sure to what extent they're involved in Dilla's estate and what not but they've probably been the most active as it relates to that. For what it's worth, they also brought Slum Village (T3, Illa J, and Young RJ) here in 2014. I'd say they've done a solid job of not making a mockery out of his legacy, though I'm not necessarily fond of most tributes mainly b/c at this point they're exhaustive and exploitative.

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"And that’s why we kind of fell back after Donuts. Donuts was such a huge success and we could’ve put out The Pizza Man right after it, and capitalized on it monetarily, but I felt kind of strange about it. It was just wrong in my eyes. I’ve always battled with that."

This makes no sense, unless the record was trash and Wolf just didn't want to admit it.

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Has anyone from the board bought this boxset or heard the floppy beat? I got an SP and I would love to get my hands on that floppy but I already have some of the wax and 200€ is more than I can justify for that.

Holla at me if you're willing to sell the floppy and/or rip it.

I could even buy it, make a copy and send the original back to you so your boxset is complete.

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New release:

Jay Dee a.k.a. J Dilla 'The King of Beats', Vol. 2: Lost Scrolls

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/jay-dee-a.k.a.-j-dilla-king/id1082770381?app=itunes&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

King of Beats Vol 2: Lost Scrolls? like that 2013 EP The Lost Scrolls vol. 1?

39 - I don't think I've heard it, sounds like a remix of a beat from Another Batch, like the sample sample

40 - definitely heard this one before, where is it from? did questlove play the snippet on his redbull lecture?

41 - New to me

42 - Sexy Ways from The New Slave (1999). The tracks that were on Dillatronic that were from The New Slave tape were lower quality than what we have, they probably tried reducing hiss which may sound good on paper but it lessens quality in the highs.

43 - I'm So Glad You're Dorothy from The New Slave (1999) (btw one of the most skillful beats I've ever heard) I hear hiss reduction here too though.

44 - New to me

45 - New to me

46 - New to me

47 - Dunnin It Kalimba from The New Slave (1999)

48 - New to me

49 - New to me

50 - Whistler from V.3 (2005) (released by bling47) this King of Beats version is sped up and has worse audio quality

51 - New to me

52 - New to me

53 - New to me

54 - Track 28 - Another Batch (1998)

I'm happy with this release, there are downsides like the audio quality for the tracks we already have but the rare ones sound amazing, I can't wait for its release.

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^39. sounds like the instr. for one of the Ray J/Let It Go remixes

Well spotted! Ray Jay - Let It Go (J Dilla Remix V2) released by bling47

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