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Why is Stones Throw the Only Good Underground Label??

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Maybe it's a West Coast thing because I can really realate to what most the West Coast rappers are talking about. A whole bunch of realness coming from the heart. I feel that in the Stones Throw rappers. All that Def Jux type shit sounds like too much blah blah. I can't really speak on Big Brother because I'm usually asleep by the time the albums over. Maybe I'll have to take a nother puff and give it another spin. I guess I'll check that "what are you listening" post but remember, the west coast is the left coast.

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when I first getting into underground hiphop def jux was one of my first ventures and I thought rjd2 was THE dopest producer for a minute.....hes still dope to me but now I know about a hell of a lot more people on his level.. and oh yea does BBE count? That new jazzy jeff is soundin tight as hellllllll

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Maybe it's a West Coast thing because I can really realate to what most the West Coast rappers are talking about. A whole bunch of realness coming from the heart. I feel that in the Stones Throw rappers. All that Def Jux type shit sounds like too much blah blah. I can't really speak on Big Brother because I'm usually asleep by the time the albums over. Maybe I'll have to take a nother puff and give it another spin. I guess I'll check that "what are you listening" post but remember, the west coast is the left coast.

I'm definitely with you on this. I think its because Stones Throw isn't trying to be underground. This type of thinking saves us from a lot of misused big words that don't add to an mcs sound. I like individuals from the other camps but Stonesthrow is definitely the most consistent. Also, the avant garde stuff Stonesthrow seems to be a lot more educated than the other labels.

I really really dislike Def Jux and their whole attitude. A bunch of pompous idiots if you ask me.

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I really really dislike Def Jux and their whole attitude. A bunch of pompous idiots if you ask me.

the fans mannnn the fansss

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Up Above is good. and LOOK<<<RECORDS.

West Toast.

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to be honest i'm not really feeling anything right now. in hip-hop that is. i'm not excited about it like i used to be. stones throw is really the only label i keep an eye on nowadays. what you guys really should do though is check out my people here in sweden. we're taking that whole electronic funk and soul into new places. i probably listen to that stuff more than stones throw or any other hip-hop or soul. i know everybody's saying this, but believe me, we're taking it over.

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to be honest i'm not really feeling anything right now. in hip-hop that is. i'm not excited about it like i used to be. stones throw is really the only label i keep an eye on nowadays.

co-sign

i also check out the stuff on fat city(uk)

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Honestly I think the west is bringing back hip hop the way it used to be..well not all the west but there are a few emerging label/artists etc comming up like stonesthrow, Strong Arm Steady , Planet Asia,Dilated Peoples, Visionaries, etc....They bringing back hip hop like how it used to be back in the east coast, fun, inventive, experimenting and trying to give hip hop its proper artform dues, fuck the rapperthat sings or uses old nursurey rhymes in beats even the lyrical content..

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stop talkin about "underground" , thats just boring...

my fav. westcoast "label" is project blowed but stones throw is good too

oh, and...

ninja tune > stones throw

sorry, for that... i'm sure you'll get over it...

...to be honest:

there will NEVER be something as good as fondle 'em records

and it's funny how some stones throw dickriders..eh...i mean "fans" make fun of def jux fans... let everybody listen to what they want and thats it,...

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and it's funny how some stones throw dickriders..eh...i mean "fans" make fun of def jux fans...

...little hypocritical, eh?

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Much respect to the West, but the East has been keeping me happy as well:

Ghostface

Bronze Nazareth

Jedi Mind Tricks

Necro

Masta Ace

Edo. G & Pete Rock

Krs One

RA the Rugged Man

Little Brother

Strange Fruit Project

Jean Grae

C Rayz Walz

Poison Pen

and there's no need to pick names outta this list and put them down, this is who I been feeling.

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I like some Def Jux

I agree they try too hard a lot of the time and they come off a little snobby even. But I'd lying if I said Murs and Lif aren't among my favorites, and I also really like Aesop and RJD2.

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I like me some Def Jux, too. But to each his own.

Some other good/consistent labels:

Tres

Lex

Fatbeats

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i like some stuff on sound in color, theyre from somewhere in so-cal. theres some tight stuff on jazzy sport outta japan. that btsradio.net shit someone hipped me to here has really brought a lot of sweet shit to my attention. check it out: www.btsradio.net

they do play some technoish house stuff which i dont realy feel sometimes, but like 80% of the shit they rock is next level hip hop or old school jazz n soul breaks. top notch guest djs and producers. flying lotus has some real nice mixes posted up in the archive.

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...little hypocritical, eh?

sorry for that but i really hate how people think that their musical taste is the one and only... especially when the audience at a stones throw show and the audience at a def jux show have so many similarities...

even the marketing of both labels is full of similarities...

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my fav. westcoast "label" is project blowed but stones throw is good too

I heard some Project Blowed shit.

My boys out in Co"BRO"na bump that shit.

Some of it's pretty dope, but alot of it was kind of off the wall.

FAST SHIT.

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I'm not talking about fans. Who gives a shit. Their music just hasn't done it for me.

Ghostface - of course

Bronze Nazareth - don't know

Jedi Mind Tricks - eh

Necro - sick fuck but great at what he does

Masta Ace - fell off after slauterhouse

Edo. G & Pete Rock - eh

Krs One - he still puts out relavent stuff?

RA the Rugged Man - no

Little Brother - pending

Strange Fruit Project - don't know

Jean Grae - hit a miss. hits are good hits

C Rayz Walz - ok

Poison Pen - don't know

The problem with most these people is they seem to whine too much. Trying to preach to me, fuck that.

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BBE
Up Above is good.

What they said...........

We've had some serious Mason Dixon line type debates on Def Jux in the past.......

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sorry for that but i really hate how people think that their musical taste is the one and only... especially when the audience at a stones throw show and the audience at a def jux show have so many similarities...

even the marketing of both labels is full of similarities...

True, I agree. And, I like both labels. Nothing but respect for both labels, regardless of the albums they put out.

People need to recognize that PBW and El-P have balls man...tires. I mean, we all sit and whine and gripe and discuss, we didn't create functional labels that go against the grain so hard that it etches it's own little grain in the process.....

Respec'

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The problem with most these people is they seem to whine too much. Trying to preach to me, fuck that.

Whine too much? I know their material pretty well and would never call it "whining." But I can tell you obviously have opinionated preferences so why the fuck are you asking us for advice? Go with what you like, that's about it.

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People need to recognize that PBW and El-P have balls man...tires. I mean, we all sit and whine and gripe and discuss, we didn't create functional labels that go against the grain so hard that it etches it's own little grain in the process.....

Respec'

It's not "balls" per se that's one of the perks of running your own damn label. You can do what the fuck you want.

We're not focusing on that, we're focusing on the music that they're putting out and alot of people just not feeling it.

Its nothing else to talk about. You like it or you don't.

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Why is Stones Throw the Only Good Underground Label??

It's a matter of taste, bro. I'm not going to be able to tell you why you feel that way, there ain't a right or wrong answer.

It's the only good underground label because they churn out the type of stuff you like and the other labels don't, I guess.

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It's the only good underground label because they churn out the type of stuff you like and the other labels don't, I guess.

FIN

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Big Dada and Ubiquity got some hot shit too.... check out Owusu & Hannibal on ubiquity, probably one of the best albums i've heard for yeaaars!!!

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It's not "balls" per se that's one of the perks of running your own damn label. You can do what the fuck you want.

Well, it is kinda balls because his income is coming from his label, so for El-p to put out music that he believes in but isn't going to make money, I think that takes balls. Willing to lose money to put out what he believes in.

PBW is doing the same thing, when people think stones throw, they think madvillain, quasimoto, and now Dilla. This Georgia Ann and Aloe Blac, not exactly the same formula as the previous, but Stones Throw puts out artists that they believe in. I can't point out numbers, but i'm sure Georgia and Aloe didn't sell records like Quas and Madvillain.

Either way, both labels have a very large fanbase, and are putting out music that is pleasing that fanbase. These are really two tough labels to compare.

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To all you cry baby asshurt muthahuggaz. Go eat a yummy sandwich. If you read the title of my post you would realize it was an open ended question. Turn me on to some goodness.

boo this man! :angry:

I take that back. I love Ra. I got him mixed up with shaban sadeeq or what ever that cats name is. And how do you know I'm a man? :)

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Why is Stones Throw the Only Good Underground Label??

It's a matter of taste, bro. I'm not going to be able to tell you why you feel that way, there ain't a right or wrong answer.

It's the only good underground label because they churn out the type of stuff you like and the other labels don't, I guess.

:)

It wan't a serious question. I guess subtle irony and sarcasm are lost on this board. :P

or I suck at it. :angry:

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