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#1 Dialog

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

what is the best sp and most user friendly?

303?505?606??

1200 is out of the question right now.

if some sp users could break down the pros and cons of the machine they own and give me some insight that would be great.

#2 pt3r

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 03:27 AM

I use a 404 wich is basically a beefed up 303:

12 voices instead of 8 and a CF card storage instead of Smart Media.

I bought it to use as a standalone box for sampling chopping and sequencing, mainly when travelling to get my beatmaking fix.
More limited then my 2kxl but I love its workflow; the limitations tend to trigger your creativity more IMO.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 07:14 AM

hasn't this been covered like a trillion times already?

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 01:19 PM

korg electribe es-1 mk 2 or korg electribe esx-1.....
do some research....

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

the thing is i have done research, i like to hear from people who have actually used the product thats the best way to find out if i wanna purchase it. ;)

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 05:58 PM

got a 505 best thing i bought so far.
trusty 505. can't really complain.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 12:12 PM

apparently roland effects are better than korg.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 12:12 PM

and adding effects to samples is what's up. make it sound a lil different.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 12:34 PM

The best overall SP is the 404... because it is battery powered, uses CF Cards, has tons of samples, ok effects, etc. The 303 is cheaper and madlib uses it so people talk about this one more...but the 404 kills it. However, the 303 looks better. The 606 kills the 505 in the same way the 404 kills the 303 and for the same reasons.

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 05:15 PM

I KNOW BECAUSE I USE BOTH:

The only thing the 303 has on top of the 404 is this one thing.... resampling a live performance while also recording multiple samples all onto 1 pad.

The 404 cant do this, so I couldn't do the 404 anymore, SOLD IT! FUCK BATTERIES.

SEND ME SOME BEATS YOU MAKE OFF THE 303 ONCE YOU GET IT, i check your page more and more now

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 08:20 PM

thanks scabs

i think im gonna go with the 303 might even go cop it this weekend if i get the 303 i'll still have money for some records B)

i don't kno how fast imma make some beats on it tho it might take me a bit to learn it or not we'll see what happens if i run into a problem with it is it cool if i msg you and ask some questions?

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:45 AM

i hear the 303 is discontinued hopefully i can still cop one, if not im gonna have to grab the 404 i supose

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Posted 08 February 2007 - 11:50 PM

trust me, find yourself the 303, you can't sacrifice in this situation. You go with batteries, you go with constant battery purchases on top of the most important missing feature. FUCK IF MADLIB USES IT. It's so easy to use once you get it, especially if your accustomed to complex samplers or programs.

WHEN YOU GET IT FEEL FREE TO HIT ME UP... IN FACT I'LL SHARE SOME OF THE SECRET TECHNIQUES OF THAT MACHINE WITH YOU.

PEACE!

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 02:36 AM

thanks man, i'll hit you up when i find one. whats the most important feature that the 404's missing?

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 10:43 PM

I KNOW BECAUSE I USE BOTH:

The only thing the 303 has on top of the 404 is this one thing.... resampling a live performance while also recording multiple samples all onto 1 pad.

The 404 cant do this, so I couldn't do the 404 anymore, SOLD IT! FUCK BATTERIES.

SEND ME SOME BEATS YOU MAKE OFF THE 303 ONCE YOU GET IT, i check your page more and more now



what are you talking about? ofcourse the 404 can do that. Infact it does a better job because its got more polyphony...

Im an avid 404 user, and if you can get a 404 instead of the 303, i say you should get it. Besides all the extra features(which are pretty important), the ad/da converters are much better on the 404 and will sound alot more detailed and richer.

the 404 is a godsend in live performances beause it holds so much on a single cf card and there simply alot more performance possibilities with it live...

THe 303 will do the job, but the 404 is a better machine without a doubt, and i highly recommend picking one up if you can...

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 10:51 PM

hmmm i have some thinking to do. :blink:

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:27 AM

Dialog, didnt i recommend the microkorg to you not too long ago? hows that going by the way??


anyways, theres an sp series forum over here: www.sp-forums.com .Hopefully that can guide you towards the sp your after.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:28 PM

Dialog, didnt i recommend the microkorg to you not too long ago? hows that going by the way??
anyways, theres an sp series forum over here: www.sp-forums.com .Hopefully that can guide you towards the sp your after.



If it can do that then explain to me the process to which to do it and then I can tell you if its a glitch with the 404 I was using or what. Cuz I've been on the 303 since release and right when the 404 came out, I found that no matter what I couldn't do it

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:36 PM

i checked out the sp forum-- some alright stuff there. i only have a 303 so probably not the best advisor, but i'd be willing to bet that between the 303, 606, sp-12, mpc and korg, madlib uses his 606 the most. i don't know why, but it seems like you get a 303 sound w/ more options. do you guys use the sequencers or just lay down tracks live, ynq-style?

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:18 PM

ya you did and its going great ;) im loving the microkorg but im still trying to expand the studio. i dunno i might get a sp or i might just save up for a mpc 1000 i gotta do some more research. thanks to everyone for the good info tho i appreciate the help alot.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 04:12 PM

DIALOG, ITS LIKE THIS: If you want a great, space friendly, user friendly sampler get the 303, if you want THE battery powered sampler, get the MPC500. If you want THE computer MPC... hold off and buy yourself the heavy duty MPC2500, don't sell yourself short. PERSONALLY I'm not a fond MPC user, so I'm dying to get that SP1200. DYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYING!!!!!!!!

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 08:10 AM

The 404 is surperior to the 303... why is everyone so into the 303? Oh yeah, because madlib uses one.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 08:12 AM

DIALOG, ITS LIKE THIS: If you want a great, space friendly, user friendly sampler get the 303, if you want THE battery powered sampler, get the MPC500. If you want THE computer MPC... hold off and buy yourself the heavy duty MPC2500, don't sell yourself short. PERSONALLY I'm not a fond MPC user, so I'm dying to get that SP1200. DYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYING!!!!!!!!


The MPC1000 is superior to the 500 in every way...expect batteries. The 404 is better than the 303 and is probably a better portable machine than the 500. The 500 requires too much menu diving.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 08:16 AM

im still saving money for a mpc

soon i will have it

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:58 PM

im still saving money for a mpc

soon i will have it

Still no one can answer my question though:
If the 404 is superior to the 303, why on earth is it imposible to rerecord 5 samples at the same time with the EXT.Source button on?

being that I'm not fond of mpcs, somewhat contradictory to my last statement, I'd go with the 404 over the mpc500 though.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 02:58 AM

im gonna go with the 1000 ive actually used one for a bit and i found it to be pretty straight forward. i actually might just rent one for a month and see if its something i wanna own in the long run. yep thats the plan.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 04:35 PM

Still no one can answer my question though:
If the 404 is superior to the 303, why on earth is it imposible to rerecord 5 samples at the same time with the EXT.Source button on?


Can the 303 do it?

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:11 PM

Can the 303 do it?

hell yeah it can! and your capable of turning mono samples into stereo samples by w/ the resampling function. not sure if the 404 can do the latter but I know you can't do the whole 5 samples+live sampling all during the resample recording. AND THATS WHY ITS SUPERIOR. not cuz Madlib uses one. shit madlib uses ONE of everything. who cares about that? I only care about what I can do, not what he can.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:13 PM

shit madlib uses ONE of everything. who cares about that? I only care about what I can do, not what he can.

****CORRECTON: I'd care if I were buying beats off him

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:53 AM

and your capable of turning mono samples into stereo samples by w/ the resampling function.


yes technically, but in actuality the sound is not gonna be different in both channels is it?

say if the record has a vocal panned to the left, and you sample it in mono so the vocal is now in the left AND right. then you resample it with a filter effect, in stereo, to another pad. you're telling me the vocal is only on the left again?




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